Indiana’s GOP pols cave on bigot law, and bigots are furious: Allegories of “Vantucky”, Clark County and Corruption in WA State

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    Indiana’s GOP pols cave on bigot law, and bigots are furious

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    There’s absolutely no doubt what the intent of Indiana’s “religious freedom” law was, or why Indiana’s Republican legislature and governor enacted it. The push for the law came from social conservatives who want to be legally shielded from lawsuits when they discriminate against LGBT people; or, as CNN more politely puts it, “insulated them from the gay rights movement.” But in America’s changing social culture, it was a bridge too far.

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    Indiana’s political leaders, finally recognizing they must choose between Indiana’s economy and legalizing discrimination against gays, are backing down.

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    While they won’t repeal the law, as demanded by the state’s tiny Democratic legislative caucus, they’ve agreed to add language prohibiting businesses from using it as a legal defense against discrimination claims for refusing “to offer or provide services, facilities, use of public accommodations, goods, employment, or housing” based on “race, color, religion, ancestry, age, national origin, disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or United States military service.” (The “United States military service” is a nice face-saving touch, no?)

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    The social conservatives are livid. That’s their problem. They can stew in it. They’ve got it coming.

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    This tweak doesn’t, per se, expand Indiana’s state anti-discrimination laws to include LGBTs. (Some Indiana cities do have local ordinances that include gay people.) But it uses “sexual orientation” in a state law for the first time, and the Republican legislators engineering the “fix” to the “religious freedom” law suggest “that debate is coming soon,” according to CNN.

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    Of course, no one should trust them on this. They could enact such protections right now, in the revisions to the “religious freedom” law, if they chose. Not doing so manifests the continuance of their original bad faith in enacting that law in the first place. We should assume they will do no more than absolutely necessary to tamp down the firestorm that law ignited, and that they’re hoping they can put out the fire by tweaking that law, and then sit on their hands and wait for the impetus for broader protections for Indiana’s gays to die down with the passage of time.

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    It’s up to us, and the business community, to make sure they don’t get away with that by keeping their feet to the fire.

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    Why Gay People Need to Use Christian Bakeries

    US Flag wrinkled'Non-Christians and straight people alike have a hard time understanding the gay wedding cake issue. Even gay-friendly straight folks don't get it. They think it's about non-discrimination, but it's not really about that at all. It's about acceptance. Non-discrimination and acceptance are two very different things. Understandably, gay couples don't just want to be married; they want social approval of their marital status. Unfortunately, to get that, some gays feel that they need to go after those who are least likely to give that approval. In other words: conservative Christians. And that is why, if there are two bakers in town, and one is gay and one is Christian, the gay couple looking for approval will always ask the Christian baker bake their wedding cake for them. Christians, for their part, know that approval is what gays want. And they know that weddings are an area in which they can withhold their approval in a  symbolically powerful way. So withhold it they do! Picture this: A couple come into a bakery and order a wedding cake. They're not noticeably a couple, so if it was any other occasion, the baker wouldn't even know the cake was for them. But as soon as they tell the baker to write "Dave & Jeff Forever" on the cake, that changes everything.& The baker proposes a compromise, knowing full well that it will be rejected: How about I give you the cake and you put the lettering and figurines on it yourself? I'll drop it off at your house and you can take it to the wedding. I'll give you a discount over my normal rate. Just don't tell me about your marriage, because I don't want to know. NO! Not good enough! replies the couple. We want YOU to put the lettering and figurines on, and we're going to sit here and watch while you do it. We wan't to make damn sure you recognize our marriage and treat us just like every other married couple. So now we're at an impasse. The couple might be able to take the matter to court and force the baker to comply or close down. But in so doing they will be reminded that the Christian baker is far from being a lone hold-out and that there are, in fact, millions of other Americans who disapprove of their marriage as well. Oh my. That's not very romantic, is it?; At this point, the battle might not seem as provident to either side as it did at the outset. But then, you know what they say about cake, don't you?'Commentary by David Preston

    Non-Christians and straight people alike have a hard time understanding the gay wedding cake issue. Even gay-friendly straight folks don’t get it. They think it’s about non-discrimination, but it’s not really about that at all. It’s about acceptance. Non-discrimination and acceptance are two very different things.
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    Understandably, gay couples don’t just want to be married; they want social approval of their marital status. Unfortunately, to get that, some gays feel that they need to go after those who are least likely to give that approval. In other words: conservative Christians. And that is why, if there are two bakers in town, and one is gay and one is Christian, the gay couple looking for approval will always ask the Christian baker bake their wedding cake for them.
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    Christians, for their part, know that approval is what gays want. And they know that weddings are an area in which they can withhold their approval in a symbolically powerful way. So withhold it they do!
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    Picture this: A couple come into a bakery and order a wedding cake. They’re not noticeably a couple, so if it was any other occasion, the baker wouldn’t even know the cake was for them. But as soon as they tell the baker to write “Dave & Jeff Forever” on the cake, that changes everything.
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    Ridiculous, no? Yes . . . in every other context but this one.
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    The baker proposes a compromise, knowing full well that it will be rejected: How about I give you the cake and you put the lettering and figurines on it yourself? I’ll drop it off at your house and you can take it to the wedding. I’ll give you a discount over my normal rate. Just don’t tell me about your marriage, because I don’t want to know.
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    NO! Not good enough! replies the couple. We want YOU to put the lettering and figurines on, and we’re going to sit here and watch while you do it. We wan’t to make damn sure you recognize our marriage and treat us just like every other married couple.
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    So now we’re at an impasse. The couple might be able to take the matter to court and force the baker to comply or close down. But in so doing they will be reminded that the Christian baker is far from being a lone hold-out and that there are, in fact, millions of other Americans who disapprove of their marriage as well. Oh my. That’s not very romantic, is it?
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    At this point, the battle might not seem as provident to either side as it did at the outset. But then, you know what they say about cake, don’t you?

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    Rioting in Kentucky! But no one is shot by the police.

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    “For the second year in a row, Kentucky has been bounced from the NCAA tournament.  And, for the second year in a row, riots broke out on and off campus in Lexington. As fires blazed in the middle of the street, citizens burned lawn chairs, shirts and other items in protest of their loss. … Several students were injured as bottles were thrown and a few were burned. … Fires broke out throughout state street in Kentucky, with students chanting “Fuck that Shit” while throwing items and causing a disturbance.”

    But it’s okay, it’s just white college kids mourning their basketball team’s loss in the NCAA finals. Move along, nothing to see here.

     

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    2 Responses to Indiana’s GOP pols cave on bigot law, and bigots are furious: Allegories of “Vantucky”, Clark County and Corruption in WA State

    1. Bruce Gambill says:

      The whole gay thing, is being and has consistently been over inflated , at least in my opinion. Personally I do not recognize them as a threat, or anything else of concern.

      It most definitely is a perversion of Nature, the way we are all, plus pretty much all living creatures are geared up to operate, so to speak. No way or means to reproduce, or maintain the human Race.

      I mean if the New World Order Leaders are serious about eliminating a lot of the worlds population, why don’t they just promote everyone turning Gay? That way within the next 100yrs or so, the entire human race could be selectively eliminated , and having us do it to ourselves. Demanding all the way, that it was our Right.

      I just feel that these various issues that we are fed and lead to focus on by the media and the Government are more of just an effective smoke screen to cover the issues we really need to be focused on. Issues that the powers that be most definitely don’t want disclosed, corrected or eliminated.

      Issues that are one hell of a lot more detrimental to our well being than if 2 gays get flowers and pizza at their gay wedding.

      What ever it is, the housing crisis/collapse, Obama care, Soccer, Football, Fergusson, you name it. We are constantly meant to be focused on a pre selected menu . A menu that in the long run, really has no long term beneficial or immensely damaging effects on the masses.

      More or less the same way a magician keeps you focused on his one hand, while he is removing your wallet with his other hand, etc, etc.

      • jimcraven10 says:

        Hi Bruce, I agree with you that the LGBT rights issue can be used and has been used as a diversion from other issues; yet civil rights abridgment against anyone or any group is not a small issue. You have every right to believe as you believe on whatever issue as do I and everyone else. The problem we get is when values and ideologies, or theologies, get translated into concrete behaviors and actions that may infringe upon, or stigmatize, or marginalize, or abridge the rights of others with conflicting ideologies, passions, interests and agenda. What this article also highlights is something you have alluded to and suffered from yourself: cloistered, non-transparent, non-accountable, covert, subterranean, corrupt, arrogant, fanatic and racist cabals in public employment, law enforcement, the judiciary, Congress and local businesses and worst of all, arrogating to speak for a whole community while remaining covert, non-transparent, non-accountable and the like. And you are right about rigged menus; which means we have to stop voting for the lesser of evils or the evil or lessers; both parties are rotten and hijacked by the backroom types. But also the dominoes are falling and are reaching into DOJ, FBI and elsewhere. As in Washington Stated and elsewhere, as more corruption is exposed in various venues including like this one, the same names, networks, modus operandi, keep coming up and the more corruption is exposed and correlated and triangulated with patterns and players in various cases, the more it begs the questions: when did it start? Why if not was it not previously exposed or, if exposed, to whom, when, where and why was nothing done (18 USC 4, 73)? These creatures are being dragged out into the potential sunlight and transparency of law and I and many others mean to drag them kicking and screaming to the law for which they have clear contempt; those wearing robes, with Bar cards, and caring badges and guns will get the special treatment of the law that their special positions and powers demand transparency and accountability for under law.

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